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  1. Arnn says:

    Happy Valentine’s day fellows. Glad you brought Mr. Skiba back.

    Arnn

  2. Denise Reckart says:

    Hey guys,
    Just want to thank you for having Rob on your show. This episode was really enlghtening! This is the first time I have heard of your broadcast. You are now on my “Favorites” list.
    Keep up the good work! God bless

  3. Jonny says:

    Great to hear Rob again, he’s got some really insightful angles on things. Some of it really blew me away!

  4. WannaKnow says:

    I heard you guys bring up Chuck Missler and the names in Genesis. Wanted to know if you ever read what Michael Heiser wrote about it. If not, check it out and see what you think.

    http://michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/2012/07/allegorical-interpretation-names-genesis-5/

  5. sim0n says:

    the whole missler 10 names spelling out god’s secret message thing is bogus and goes completely against the intention of the bible. 5 min of internet checking can reveal this to anyone eg:
    http://newprotestants.com/hidden.htm
    Treating the bible like some sort of code book is clearly not God’s intention and is sliding down that slope into occult practices like numerology and divination.
    Skiba’s version is even more…dumb. Come on guys start using your spiritual discernment and stop turning from solid teaching to these types what the itching ears want to hear, itching ears, itching ears…..
    you need baby milk still !

  6. sim0n says:

    quote from Rob Skiba:

    While I do believe that the Holy Bible is Divinely inspired and written by men, I do not necessarily hold to the idea that only the 66 books we now have in our (Protestant) bibles are the sole Divinely inspired books of antiquity. -rob skiba

    So i guess that gives him free rein to choose sources wherever he wants. The catholics do the same thing. One thing we do know – there have been found no divinely inspired books outside of the 66.

    Lewis Sperry Chafer (1871-1952), the first president of Dallas Theological Seminary, once reportedly said that all heresy is either the Bible plus, or the Bible minus.

    just some food for thought….

    • Gonz says:

      While I don’t mean to start an argument, I will say that the quote you had there is taken completely out of context. I found the quote on a website going after Rob Skiba and his “lack of discernment” regarding the canon of Scripture. But let me be clear that having met the man, sharing conversations and meals with him, I can assure you that he does not promote the inspiration of the extra-biblical text he quotes.

      Here’s the link to the Skiba bashing: http://guardinghisflock.com/2013/01/27/babylon-rising-and-canon-in-crisis/

      Most of this article hinges on the assumption that Skiba believes that extra-biblical text are inspired. In fact, that is not the case at all. If you continue reading from the quote you took, you will find that he is referencing the point that there were other books written in the time of antiquity that people felt were divinely inspired. And to elaborate on his point, I don’t think we can say for certain that the 66 books we have now are the only inspired books. This is simple logic. Do we have some kind of divine authority to declare it? Now I DO I believe that the 66 books ARE inspired and that’s by faith, not doctrine. But if there are points of correlation in other text that don’t contradict the 66 Biblical text, then I don’t see why exploring the possibility of a deeper understanding of what happened in our ancient past is outside the realm of being good Bereans.

      Quote:

      “Regarding extra-biblical texts, I do read and often quote from such books; primarily the books of Enoch, Jubilees and Jasher. I do not consider these books to be canon, but I do consider them to be valuable sources of information, which can serve as ancient commentaries that both elaborate on the canonized Scriptures as well as provide added insight into the beliefs of those who wrote the books we now consider canon.”
      -Rob Skiba Babylon Rising: The First Shall be the Last page xxviii

      That should put this whole conversation to rest.

      Regarding the Genesis names, I think it’s an interesting point to consider, but by no means is Missler or Skiba thus promoting some kind of numerology or occult divination. These are simple points of observation. There may be some who might use this type of information to build doctrine, but that’s not my intent, nor do I believe it is the intent of guys like Missler and Skiba. While Missler does promote the idea that this is some kind of “cosmic code”, I think Skiba is more using the method for investigation.

      The Dr Heiser article that was linked earlier here concerning the topic showed the faulty and loose etymological exercises that Missler conducts to make his names thing work. I highly respect Dr. Heiser and think that he does clearly show that Missler is in the wrong here. This brings up a question. Is Missler doing this on purpose? Or was he finding things based on the research he did, and the resources he had? I think the second is more plausible. Dr. Heiser has more resources, references, etc at his fingertips and thus has the ability to dig a little bit deeper.

      But here’s the kicker. Does it shatter my faith that Missler may have been sensationalizing the genealogy in Genesis? Absolutely not. And furthermore, is it possible that the Holy Spirit used this kind of “sensationalization” to perk my personal interest and desire to learn more about the Bible? I think yes. I’m living proof of that.

      We all have our own thoughts about how a church should be run or how a Bible study conducted. But let’s remember that God is bigger than all of that. He could use the most heretical situation and make it good. I always have to remind myself of that. When I do, I realize that there are battles we all have to choose. Personally, I feel led to speak to a lost world about the times we are in, and it has everything to do with saving souls. Do you think Chuck Missler or Rob Skiba are unsaved? I would think so for Chuck, but Rob is most certainly a fellow brother in Christ.

      This is much longer than I had hoped….

      Last thing.

      1 Thessalonians 5:12-21

      We ask you, brothers, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Be at peace among yourselves. And we urge you, brothers, admonish the idle, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with them all. See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone. Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies, but test everything; hold fast what is good.

      Gonz

      • sim0n says:

        well why not just go to the source and read what skiba says in his own words:
        http://www.seedtheseries.com/blog/PDF/BabylonRising.pdf
        that’s what I, and that dude you say is “skiba bashing”, are quoting…

        “So, while I believe true Scripture is indeed Divinely inspired, I’m not
        prepared to accept that the acquisition and accumulation of these texts was always necessarily inspired by
        God. To believe otherwise I think is the epitome of prejudicial bias.”

        What Skiba is implying is that there are other divine books out there but the bible we have was assembled buy mere humans and maybe its just prejudice that is the cause of what we have today.

        LIke most of these types, skiba plays around and rationalize maybes and might have beens and voila, you have someone off in the deep end.

        You pretty much admitted that missler is a dan brown. Why on earth would you think that skiba doing the same thing with codes is somehow immune to the same criticism? You are rationalizing this my friend…. but then again i’ve been there too, so i’m not bragging or anything :)

        That last bit you quoted from the bible – there are to be no leaders other than christ in the church body: ‘over you’ is a poor kjv translation of proístēmi, which means to lead by example or reputation, ie, to positively impact them by example… just a tidbit for you there. This is why ppl are leaving churches in droves….

        The last part about testing prophecy, i tested and result = fail.

        • Hunter McNeel says:

          Thank you Brother Gonz for honoring Brother Skiba in his defense, I have thanked God for encouraging me through what God has done in you, and Basil, and Skiba. I am glad we get to call each other brothers, even 10,000 years from now.

          Sim0n, do not think of yourself so highly in trying to discourage brothers like this. You have the attributes of a false teacher yourself from I Timothy 6:4. People leave churches because their is no unity, there is a loss of love, don’t put little ideas like this into such a drastic scheme to bash a son of the living God.

          Gonz, one of the gifts that God has given me is discerning of spirits (I do not know where you guys stand on the gifts of the spirit), and it is very encouraging to know that even surrounded with the darkness of truth in reality… you guys are so bright.

          • Hunter McNeel says:

            haha, with the discerning of spirits… well I meant to say that I feel the fire of God with what you guys say. My gift isn’t fully stirred up (1st Timothy 4:14 and 2nd Timothy 1:6) but I know the difference in doctrinal strife. Just want to encourage you further.

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