FLYBY: Canary Cry Christmas?

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Canary Cry Christmas

CHRISTMAS TIME IS HERE! And that means the internet conversation, even heated debates, will undoubtedly spark on the topic of whether or not Christmas is pagan in origin. Those in the camp of “Christmas is Pagan” will bring up all sorts of arguments supporting their position. Some are more accurate than others, but the one thing you can’t fault with this crew is that they are sincere believers in Jesus Christ and are truth seekers in the most genuine sense of the title. On the opposite end is someone like Kirk Cameron, whose main argument FOR Christmas is traditions like roasted chestnuts and hot cocoa. Not the most compelling defense for Christmas. But what is the actual position we ought to take? According to the Scriptures, it really is up to the individual. If someone feels that they cannot celebrate Christmas because they believe that all of its customs are pagan in origin, then surely, they will have a difficult time celebrating. Meanwhile, if one can clearly see that the celebration of Christmas, while may have some resemblance of pagan rituals, is clearly not the worship of any false deities in our modern incarnation, then it would be totally appropriate to celebrate with the rest of Christendom, the birth of our Savior. Of course, all of us understand that December 25th is not the true birthday of Jesus Christ. However, that shouldn’t stop the rest of the church from using this opportunity to preach the Gospel, since this is the time of year when people are most open to it.

In this FLYBY, Basil and Gonz discuss why they personally feel that celebrating Christmas is not participating in old pagan rituals. Gonz even talks about how he was into the whole, “Christmas is pagan” thing for a while, focusing instead on the feasts of God exclusively. And while he still does observe the feasts, he feels there’s no reason to omit Christmas as part of the seasonal celebration.

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The following are links to articles and resources on this topic:

-Greg Koukl of Stand To Reason: Is Christmas Pagan? (http://www.str.org/articles/is-christmas-pagan#.VHbCeWTF9nQ)

-Lutheran Pastor on Christmas: (http://www.orlutheran.com/html/chrmas_pagan1.html)

-Cris Putnam on Christmas (http://www.logosapologia.org/?p=5376)

-Kirk Cameron on how not to defend Christmas? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsIGdv2-idk)

SCRIPTURES TO CONSIDER

COLOSSIANS 2:16

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

ROMANS 14:3,5,17

The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them…One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind…For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,

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10 comments… add one
  1. Sheila Horn

    Really liked this! I have mixed feelings about Christmas. I don’t over celebrate it. I don’t put the commerce of it over the reason why the birth of Christ happened. And I haven’t had a tree in many years. Not because of the idea that they are pagan but mostly because we have 6,count em 6 cats and I don’t want a “Christmas Vacation” accident because cats do not have 9 lives. I do have a beautiful Nativity set that my late mother made me many years ago that I make sure I put up every year. She was quite gifted as an artist and had a kiln and made sets for myself and my sister. Last year I had the family over and I made a “pin the star over the manger” game. I drew it and made the stars myself. Unfortunately the children of my family were not interested. Maybe if was on a WII U or a Playstation it would have been more appealing. And after years of missing Christmas Eve service because of gathering together on that day,I decided two years ago to change it up and we would get together on the weekend before. It has freed everyone up to make it to service if they choose to go. My family is Catholic. I am not. I used to be until I had the Saul to Paul conversion. I consider myself evangelical. I have asked our Abba Daddy God for truth. I started to get legalistic with those who don’t understand or are blinded to why He came as a human but was also God. But thanks to the Lord He has led me to shows like this. I don’t consider myself worshiping a pagan king. I know who my Savior is an I thank the Father everyday for the birth,life,death,resurrection,ascension,and His soon coming physical reign on this earth.
    Hey guys,have a very blessed Christmas. And just think;one day it will all be crystal clear. We won’t have to have debates and even arguments over this. The light of Christ will outshine any doubt or any misunderstandings. I tell people He reigns in the hearts of men now. But He will have a physical reign again and it will be perfect!
    Love in Christ,
    Sheila

  2. Nice article. However there are a few points I believe could be made to spread more truth in relation to Christmas. For one you state that:

    “Of course, all of us understand that December 25th is not the true birthday of Jesus Christ.”

    No one knows this for certain. In fact, evidence from the early Church and ancient Judaism point to the possibility that it was in fact the birth date of Christ. Furthermore, the date itself was not connected historically to any pagan practice. There are no ancient text, inscriptions, etc from ancient paganism that shows they practiced of kept this date. The earliest Christian references to the Dec 25th date for Jesus’ birth come from Clement, Hippolytus, and the Constitutions of the Apostles. All of which predate the first mention of Dec 25th in paganism in 274 A.D.

    Anyway, nice article! Here are some extra resources you may find note worthy:

    http://touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-10-012-v

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2007/12/evidence-december-25-is-the-right-day/

    http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/how-december-25-became-christmas/#note04

    http://www.throwbackchristianity.com/christmas-pagans/

  3. Linda

    Good Job, and Merry Christmas! 🙂

  4. Spot on. Very fair and scripturally-based approach to the whole topic…

  5. Gabs

    Really enjoyed this those bible verse tho on point.

  6. Susan

    Oh man oh man, PLEASE make a Christmas CD!!! I will buy many, many copies and give them to ALL of the very few people I know and we will laugh and laugh and laugh our way through this festive time of year! I promise to have it playing in the background while I roast my chestnuts over open flame, sipping that delicious hot cocoa, and egg nog all the while tending to my yule logs….well, this will be true minus the chestnuts and hot chocolate, egg nog, yule logs, and friends.

  7. rj

    You guys lost all credibility on this one. I will not be back. I am sickened by your sympathy of paganism and your lazy treatment of scripture. Bottom line…it does not matter what I think…You will need to defend your witness to HIM.

    1. admin

      Sorry to hear that RJ. I don’t think we were ever sympathetic towards paganism. In fact, if that’s what you got out of the episode, then you missed the point entirely. In the following days and weeks from the time we posted this episode, we ran into similar folks who share your sentiment. But as we demonstrated (mostly on Facebook) there are examples in the Bible where God uses the tradition of men for his own glory. The feast of Purim is a perfect example. So by suggesting we are sympathetic towards paganism is actually a straw man you built in order to tear us down. Please do more research on this subject matter before you judge others. It’s not lazy Scripture, it’s a whole Scriptures approach, not am “abide by the mosaic law” approach, of which we are free from in Christ.

      1. Just a Observer

        You guys say Christ freed us from the law, but Christ himself said I did not come to abolish the law but to complete the law meaning the law is still intact and functional. Also we are all sealed with the same Holy Spirit right? And God is not a God of Confusion but if one is convicted then changes his ways and another is not convicted and stays the same then what does that say about the spirit that man is sealed with, but they both say they are saved by the same God? It sounds like you guys use your own version of legalism to defend your point of view. But its just something to think about not judging you just rattling the canary’s cage lol peace.

        1. admin

          Just for clarification, I don’t believe we ever said Christ freed us from the law. That’s a common accusation from folks who tend to get legalistic (not saying you are). Rather, Christ fulfilled the law, and wrote it on our hearts. So when we are saved, we ought to be convicted on our own to abide by the laws of God, which are exemplified in the 10 commandments, but are clearly stated by Jesus as, “Love God” and “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Chris White does a marvelous job explaining this whole thing with the law in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HpPEdNOyK0

          Do check it out. And no offense or judgment taken. We’re here to talk about these things and discuss them. Not to condemn a brother. God Bless.

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