CCR 037: Numbers

Basil and Gonz take a look at what we often take for granted; numbers. Numbers are everywhere. They are the foundation for all things. The guys take a look at numbers through philosophical, esoteric, and Biblical lenses.



Dr. Dave Lehman (

Dr. William Lane Craig on Numbers as objects:




TEDx talk with Randy Powell:


Marko Rodin (

Randy Powell (

Rodin Symbol:

Marko Rodin Video:


Randy Powell Video:





British mathematician I. J. Good wrote:

“There have been a few examples of numerology that have led to theories that transformed society…It would be fair enough to say that numerology was the origin of the theories of electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, gravitation…. So I intend no disparagement when I describe a formula as numerological. When a numerological formula is proposed, then we may ask whether it is correct. … I think an appropriate definition of correctness is that the formula has a good explanation, in a Platonic sense, that is, the explanation could be based on a good theory that is not yet known but ‘exists’ in the universe of possible reasonable ideas.”
—I. J. Good (1990). “A Quantal Hypothesis for Hadrons and the Judging of Physical Numerology.”






Table of Nations were 70 in Genesis 10: (

The Discrepancy of DEUTERONOMY 32:8:

ESV: “When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.”

KJV: “When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.”

LUKE 4:6 shows Satan was given authority over the earth’s kingdoms.

“…and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will.”

Jesus sends 70 to reclaim the nations. Some readings say 72 depending on the manuscript. Luke 10:1 and 10:17.

LUKE 10:1 (


Hebrew Meanings 

The Biblical Meaning of Numbers from One to Forty
by Dr. Stephen E. Jones





11 comments… add one
  1. This weeks show was great!!! Thanx for the stimulating topic.

    1. Thanks for taking time to check it out Brian. God Bless.

  2. Jonny

    Thanks guys, this was a really different episode with lots of new information.

  3. Rowdy

    probably one of the more comedic episodes. I almost fell off the roof I was working on when Baz refused Gonz’s invitation to read… was it a definition of numerology? I dunno.

    funny though…

  4. Luke

    Not sure if you guys saw this:

    I stumbled on this when looking a little deeper at Whitley Strieber and his involvement in anything “new age” or “occultic” before his experiences. There’s a whole bunch of worms there …

  5. Joseph

    I don’t know if it’s true or not because I haven’t seen the movie but I heard that’s what the new movie Life of Pi is about. Apparently the character believes in every religion. And that’s what satan’s deceptive crap is all about and the people who are under his spell. That everything is science and every road leads to God and people can be their own god. People worshiping the numbers and not the Architect. People worshiping the creation and not the Creator. It’s such a lie and feeds in to peoples ego so much to not believe in the Absolute who performs miracles beyond the numbers He created. I can’t wait for Jesus to come put an end to this and show everyone He’s beyond numbers. Even as a believer I get caught up in technology so I’m guilty of it too. We are just human after all but we all need to remember Jesus is above all this and none of this stuff will be the cure to our problems no matter how good it looks and tempting it is to believe in. Only Jesus saves.

  6. formula13x

    Very cool stuff. But one thing I kept thinking was that this is all based on a base 10 numbering system.

    I’m a software enginer / programmer and it’s not uncommon to be working with other numbering systems (especially in embedded environments)

    base 2 – Binary represented as 0, 1 for example, the number the 8 bit number 255 is represented as 11111111

    base 16 – Hex represented as 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B, C, D, E, F for example, the number 255 is represented as FF (a way of representing a full byte of data)

    (in ancient tech days of 8 bit systems there were systems with a base of 8 – Oct (0-7) for example, the number 255 was represented as 377

    1. formula13x

      Forgot to make my point.
      My point is, how do we know what the universal base numbering system is (if there is one at all?).

      If 7 is the complete number, then why wouldn’t it a base 7 numbering system for exampl. Or some other system all together. Any tricks we do based on a base 10 could be completely flawed, and a lot of these other numbers might make sense if we knew the base they were built against.

  7. 144ky

    Maybe I am 4 years late, but I found it weird that 124875 is a sequence, 1*2 = 2, 2*2=4, 4*2=8, then 8 – 1 = 7 and 7 – 2 = 5, the next would be 5 – 4 = 1, then you could just do times 2, times 2, times 2 and subtract with the numbers from the beginning again, why did that come to my mind? I don’t know if I know.

    1. 144ky

      Wait, what, I listened to it now and this is actually a sequence? I thought they were random numbers that you put there at first.

      1. 144ky

        WAIT, EVEN THE WAY YOU DO GOES BACK TO ONE? Ok, this is interesting.

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